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So Much For Love...So Much For The Orble Community

December 8th 2006 03:26
Well.

I jumped into joining Orble, head first and arms out (yes, rather a dangerous move), very excited.

This would be my step into the publishing world, I thought. This was where I'd make other fabulous writing friends, and learn more about the industry.

This would be where I'd write out all my feelings in an anonymous way, pouring my heart out onto the page, for all to see.

The remaining anonymous part has not gone down how I'd like. For I haven't really remained anonymous.

What you see is what you get. This is me. Pink, airy-fairy, but intense, too. Passionate. Likes to drink pink champagne. Has various romantic encounters during the day (all in my head). Loves to write these encounters down.


I'm also in love with love. I also love everything, and everyone.

In fact, this trait of mine often gets me into trouble, or hurt. I soon realise people don't love me as I love them. Or people start to think I'm some kind of fruitbat (a pink Cherry one!), and shy away from me.

Having children has focused my love onto my daughter, of course. She laps up my love like a puppy would (in fact, I really should look at getting a dog...). She fills my heart until I'm crying from the agony of it all.

She is my everything.

Recently, it has been brought up that maybe I'm not everything I claim to be.

This hurts. This really hurts like nothing ever has. Because, without me, what would I be?

I guess those that matter know who I am. Appreciate who I am.

This is somewhat of a sad post, because I feel like Orble has let me down. People have let me down.

People I considered friends have either a) picked me to shreds, and publicly...

Or b) have found attacking me humorous.

I wonder about these kind of people. People that would attack and not support one another.

This was supposed to be an Orble community, after all. And all I've ever done is try to support everyone.

Well. What's done is done. This won't keep me down for long. In fact, some would say this is not even worth a post about.

I'm merely disappointed in the human race that could find putting down another person, and attacking her life-blood at that (her romance writing!!!), so funny.

I may be down, and hurt (bleeding again).

But this Romantic Writer always picks herself up. And I'm quite certain it will be me with the last laugh.

I'll be sure to post you all a copy of Betrayal when it's published.



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Comment by Andrea

December 8th 2006 04:56
Signed copy, please.

It's times like this that you really find out who your friends are, K.L. All the others aren't worth worrying about.

Feisty, remember? K.L. is feisty and smart, beautiful and lovable (no, I;m not gay) and full of passion and romance.

And one of the nicest people I've ever met.

Brush off the dust, my friend, and keep going with your dream because I know that one day you will get everything that you want. And when you do, all those people who put you down and found humour in snide comments made about you will not even register a blip on your radar.

They will not even cross your mind.

Stay true to yourself... there is nothing wrong with you.

Your Caramel Angel Writing Sis

A.H.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 8th 2006 05:00

Hi my sweet Caramel Angel,

Your unconditional support always makes me cry.

Thank you so much. More than words will ever be able to express.

I'm feeling much better already. I've purged, I've moved on.

They're not worth worrying about. I feel better that I am a decent enough human being not to laugh at somebody being ridiculed.

This is like high school! And I am soooo above it.

Love you girls, my sisters,
K.L.
xoxo

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 8th 2006 05:02

P.S. We so need to get back to the funny stuff...

Hard, crack...

Hoochie ma ma's show your na na's!!!

I feel better already. Laughing again!!!

K.L.
xoox

Comment by Andrea

December 8th 2006 05:22
Did I hear our theme tune?

Where are Cherry and Angus to sing it for us?

Hope you're laughing hard, my Cherry Angel.

A.H.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 8th 2006 05:32

I am now!!

Nothing like the Caramel Angel to seriously kick some funny butt.

K.L.

Comment by TonyK

December 8th 2006 06:10
Keep on perservering, those people who waste their time putting down others arent worth worrying about

Good luck

Comment by katyzzz

December 8th 2006 07:01
K.L.

I'm sorry you're feeling down, there seems to be an army of people arond here that love you.

Think pink and you'll fly through the day.

I'm not much into Romance but that doesn't mean others should not be and I don't ever recall expressing such a view.

I'm not much of a love and kisses type really but I fully support what you are doing, I have just urged you to take the view that there is plenty of time.

All I can say is you have a lot of friends around here, but the face of Orble is changing.

There is some pink on my site, you don't have to comment, or even vote, just take a peek and it
may brighten you up, especially the most recent two.

With Mrs. M's luv and stuff.

katyzzz

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 8th 2006 07:52

To TonyK,

Thank you for commenting...and saying something nice!

It was lovely to see your face here.

K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 8th 2006 07:54

To Katyzzz,

Thank you for your kind words, and lovely support.

K.L.

Comment by Justin

December 8th 2006 08:25
That's an important thing to remember - to pick yorself up and keep on going regardless of other people. Stuff what other people think sometimes. If you listened to them and stayed down you couldn't grow or progress or be active as they are in whatever pursuits they choose (e.g. in particular, picking on other people)
It's they who should be put down for hurting you.

P.S.
On your feet soldier.
You're not done yet!!

Comment by Andrea

December 8th 2006 08:32

Comment by Mrs M

December 8th 2006 08:38
It is a damn shame you feel this way. And you are right, it is unnecessary to make people feel this way. Bugger the bastards who let you down.

I don't often leave comments on your blog but I do read it.

I can see that you have a couple of very good friends on Orble who'll always pick you up.

Keep on writing. It's a labour of love. Your love.

I don't know whether my opinion counts, but I think you can write.

Love & stuff
Mrs M

Comment by Brenton

December 8th 2006 09:09
Mmm... I'll admit to being one of those who seemed to find the attack on you amusing.

That really wasn't what I meant to convey. I was trying to say that Homer being a dick was both his wakness and strong point.

For the record I don't read your work, as romance isn't my thing, but I do admire you writing.

Comment by Lilla

December 8th 2006 09:13
KL,

I'm truly sorry to see you down...so decided to leave a comment this round... I feel everyone is 'write' ... stick to your guns... this is the time the tough get going. LIke you, I don't have a quarrel - only good intentions - but sometimes they are gravely misunderstood...you will laugh last. I always look at who is putting me down too and how successful their lives have been (or are)... sometimes it helps put things into perspective...

.. learn from it, grow, bless it and move on...

Lilla...


Comment by Tracy

December 8th 2006 09:18
Hello KL

As Tony K said, try not to worry about spiteful things people say to you. It was an unprovoked attack that was cruel and unnecessary.

Stay true to who you are and carry on enjoying your craft-writing.

Oh, and don't forget to sip that pink champers.

Tracy


Comment by JohnDoe

December 8th 2006 09:24
Hi K.L,

Im also having a black day and feel your pain. Just wanted to show my support and empathise

Not because of the people at orble I have been blessed with nothing but encouragment and kind words for the most part from the community.

Sadly, its in real life that people have disappointed me repeatedly, and most recently. I tend to keep most at arms distance, but those I let in have a the power to cause me pain.

Its the price of relationships sometimes, but the positives that come from friendship far outway the bad.

Im sure those positives will begin to appear before you know it.

Please don't stop writing, you are one of the few that does it from the heart, with honesty and sincerity.
You always have something thoughtful to say when you comment on my blog and I appreciate your input.

I thought I'd leave you with something that always cheers me up.....

".........Lifes a piece of shit, when you look at it. Things can really make you swear and curse. So if your chewing on life' grissle dont be sorry, give a whistle and remember that the last laugh is on you.
Hey
Always look on the bright side of life, dada dada dada dada......(all together now) Always look on the bright side of life..."
- care of the Python boys



Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 8th 2006 09:49

To Justin,

Your words were very sweet, and I really appreciate them.

Thank you for that. Thank you so much!

K.L.
P.S. I like the onward soldier bit. Very motivating!


Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 8th 2006 09:52

Andrea, my Angel,

I can always rely on you...especially for the funny stuff.

xooxox

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 8th 2006 09:54

To Mrs M,

Your opinion matters greatly to me. Thank you for that.

It's lovely to see you on my site!! Well, to see your face...I appreciate all the time previously that you've spent reading and voting.

Thank you.

K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 8th 2006 09:58

To Brenton,

Thank you for clarifying this for me.

Yes, I was hurt to see you, and to take your comment, as enjoying what was said about me.

Of course I should have known you didn't mean that.

Thank you so much for telling me this, and what you've said. I really do appreciate it, and it's made me feel heaps better.

I'm now afraid this has turned into a me against them thing....and that was the last thing I wanted.

I was just deeply, deeply hurt by the comments, and like Dusk Devi always says to me, I get it all out in my writing, then I feel better.

I do feel much better now.

Everybody's support here has helped me feel great.

Thank you, Brenton.

K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 8th 2006 10:01

To Lilla,

It's good to hear from you again! Haven't seen you round in awhile! What's doing, girl??

Thanks for your words. I'm overwhelmed right now at everyone's support.

This was a post that I wrote very quickly, and while very upset.

Now I'm wondering why I always put my heart on the line...it only gets me hurt and upset, and battling emotions I don't want to battle.

But the support I've instantly received is heartwarming.

Thank you for yours, Lilla.

K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 8th 2006 10:08

To Tracy,

It's lovely to see you here. Thanks for your kind, lovely, supporting words.

Don't worry, I will be having that champers still!!!

K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 8th 2006 10:16

To JohnDoe,

I think your lovely comments made me cry the most...

(Yes, it's truly pathetic. The Romantic Writer, a glass of pink champagne in hand, crying over her laptop...it's not pretty)

I know your pain. I know what it's like to have people you care about, and love, hurt you with their words or their treatment of you.

I like what you said about friendship outweighing it all. That's very true. That's why we go back for more, isn't it??

I'm glad you appreciate what I write, or how I write, should I say.

This is what is both my saviour and my fall from grace....writing truly from the heart.

I'm glad you appreciate it.

K.L.
P.S. And thanks for your Monty Python song at the end...that's brilliant!!

Comment by Pilgrim

December 8th 2006 11:17
My dear K.L, just remember this: no matter how well you write, how nice you try to be, how rich or beautiful you are, there will always be people who won't like you and I'm not pointing my finger at anybody (speaking generally here). The sooner you can accept and get over this the better off you'll be.

* Short Stories *

Comment by Tracy

December 8th 2006 11:28
Hi KL

It was a pleasure talking to you and I'm glad you are getting back on the writing horse and are feeling stronger.

Tracy

Comment by Ahmed

December 8th 2006 12:31
Meh, fuckwads will be fuckwads, screw them, their opinion means jack shit, just hang in there and don't let their self reightous claims get to you. They know who they are, just screw them.

This always happens to communities when they reach a certain size, orble is no exception I guess...

Comment by Luke

December 8th 2006 12:33
Every blog that gets written specifically about the Orble 'community' is a blog that alienates random readers who come across this network.

Comment by Ahmed

December 8th 2006 12:35
meh, so be it, what else can you do? Like the saying goes, 'the internet is full of two kinds of people, the fuckwads, and the non fuckwads'.

Comment by Luke

December 8th 2006 12:37
I'm just a little confused... is the object of it all to attract more traffic or to turn it into a glorifed messageboard?

Comment by Ahmed

December 8th 2006 12:39
Same thing really isn't it?, the more people that post comments the more higher the traffic.


I mean, who said my latest post The Fuckwad Theory isn't trying to get lots of traffic via provokation of said fuckwads? I mean, thats the beauty of shock journalism, it's easy to do and give syou an outlet to vent, not to mention lots of traffic.

Comment by Bulamakanka

December 8th 2006 12:49
Hi KL

I can't pretend to know what you are talking about.

But as a writer you should never let a character get away.

A bad experience can lead to a great villain.

One of our exercises in school was to go to a reasurant and listen in to other peoples conversations. It was a study into human behaviour.

"Live and learn" is an old adage. But a writer should follow "Live and learn and take advantage"

You have learned something of human nature.

Now profit from it. Use what you have learned and make it work for you.

And finish that book.

Comment by Hope

December 8th 2006 13:06
I don't have any idea what happened K.L. but I wish you the best. No matter what we do there will always be people who will criticize us but "nobody can make us feel inferior without our consent". Smiles.

Comment by Ahmed

December 8th 2006 13:07

Comment by Deorre

December 8th 2006 13:14
Ah the double edged sword. If you were not so passionate and loving, the silly and inane words of those who put you down would mean nothing. But you are passionate, so there you have it.

Keep being you, please.

Comment by Ahmed

December 8th 2006 13:16
just don't give anyonea ny consent for putting you down, like the saying Hope wrote

Comment by Hope

December 8th 2006 14:07
Thanks Ahmed, that saying is pretty powerful. it's from Eleanor Roosevelt and it's really "Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent". Just modified it for K.L.

Another powerful saying is "You did what you knew how to do. And when you knew better, you did better".

Comment by Soleil

December 8th 2006 18:21
Agree with that saying Hope!

KL: There are times when you give love and will never receive love in return. However, it is the not having any expectations to be loved back that makes the act of love so beautiful.

There will also be times when you give all that we can give and never receive anything in return.
It is the act of giving and not expecting anything in return that makes your act powerful.

Thoughts?

Comment by Andrea

December 8th 2006 23:45
Ahmed, you got it spot on. Communities and disputes go hand-in-hand, even when the people in the community don't even know each other personally.

I also love Hope's saying ... very appropriate and very true.

K.L. don't give your consent to feeling inferior because you're not inferior. You're a beautiful person and a fantastic writer. And if you're ever in doubt, read some of the comments you've received here and you'll feel so much better.

Don't forget, you don't have to give consent to feel good about yourself, you just do.

A.H.

Comment by DuskDevi

December 9th 2006 00:20
Cherry Angel...

It's quite hard to not crack a joke right now...but I'll try.

All you need is love...tat tananana
All you need is love...tat tananana
Al you need is love...love...
Love is all you need.

And maybe a bestselling novel.

You have the former in loads.

The latter is just around the corner.

much love to you my GPMBL Angelsis

Dusk

Comment by dswhite

December 9th 2006 00:52
We always find ourselves disappointed when we depend too much on human input. Know your own worth, research your contacts and keep on writing. You will make it.

Peace,
Dee

Comment by The Voices in my Head

December 9th 2006 01:07
KL, if you will allow my comment here,

I believe I know the post you are referring to. I visited it and I left a comment that I do hope you did not take the wrong way. The comment I left was referring to the actual satirical nature of the post itself and not regarding any particular comments made in regards to it or any back and forth between the comments.

I have grieved the loss of Orble, as it was when I joined, as well. I am trying to focus on my writing now, as you are, and not only work seriously on it, but have fun with it. Let it become my joy here.

Rock on,
Voices~

Comment by Bryn

December 9th 2006 02:05
KL,
Here's a little metaphor: sometimes in the busy traffic of life you might get sideswiped and need a little body work, sometimes you'll brush past someone and admire the fabric of their clothing, sometimes you'll spot a face in the crowd and wonder if you'll see that face again, sometimes you trip on the curb and stumble across the sidewalk, nearly fall, but regain your composure, smile, and continue walking, moving effortlessly back into the massive hustle and bustle that is the modern traffic of life ... online or offline ... Sometimes we fall, sometimes we stumble, sometimes some bastard rudely elbows us, but hey, we just gotta keep on truckin'.
Hope you can find a little rhyme or reason in my weekend ramblings ... lol
Cheers! (holding up a flute of pink champers to toast the festive season with you)

Comment by Lilla

December 9th 2006 05:00
KL, my sweet,

...in response ... I am always here (and there), reading and voting... I just don't always comment because (a) I am not a great talker [more of a doer], and (b) time restraints... be assured I love your work and think you will go far if you keep at it and don't let the turkey's get you down... look for the good in the bad...

...another saying for you to digest...

"Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great" - Mark Twain.

with love
Lilla...

Comment by Stanley

December 9th 2006 07:59
aw i have no basis on the history leading up to this post but i do feel compelled to write in support. i can't see why anyone would ever want to write such negative things to an obviously passionate person.

for the record i wouldn't. hope that helps.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 9th 2006 10:31

To Pilgrim,

Thanks for your words, and support.

A part of me gets over this....another part of me can never let go of my hurts. And, honestly, this really hurt. This really knocked me.

It sounds pathetic and stupid, but it really knocked me for a six (is this the saying????).

All this support really helps.

Thank you,
K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 9th 2006 10:32

Thank you, Tracy.

Your words are always welcome here!

K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 9th 2006 10:34

To Ahmed,

I must admit, this new side of your personality is really rather fetching....

Very romantic hero-like.

Thank you again for your support. The fact that you stood up for me, and for the whole issue at hand (of dissing a fellow writer publicly after she's given you her entire manuscript and trusted you with it), was really very heartwarming. I was so happy you did that.

K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 9th 2006 10:45

To Luke,

The fact that you seemed to derive such pleasure from the unprovoked attack on my writing, and on my personality in general, was very upsetting.

Please correct me if I'm wrong in how I interpreted your comments after my 'attack.' If this wasn't what you meant, or meant to convey, please tell me. But I have a feeling it was.

But to then jump on my site and to ponder whether I wrote this post for 'more traffic' or to make this some kind of community message board, really pisses me off.

I'm sorry, but it does.

I wrote this post immediately after reading what was said about me, and your comments and various other people's comments on the 'post in question.'

I was incredibly upset, more than I'm sure I'd be able to convey to you...

So upset that I sat down and wrote this post. I actually felt rather pathetic while I wrote it, almost like the nerdy girl who'd been dissed by the cool guys at school.

I was in pain, and humiliated, and torn to bits over my romance writing, which is almost as important to me as my daughter and husband and family, being torn to shreds, and for all the (Orble) world to see.

This was the only intention with my post.

To have my feelings, and my pain, and my reaction questioned really pisses me off.

I don't care about traffic on my site. I care about people getting what I'm writing.

You obviously don't get it.

K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 9th 2006 10:47

To Deorre,

Your comments touched my heart more than I can tell you.

Your support is really appreciated, and what you said.

Thank you so much,
K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 9th 2006 10:49

To Hope,

Thank you. It's very true.

I've allowed myself to be hurt....but I don't really know any other way.

My heart is always open. Sounds tragic, and pathetic, but true.

K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 9th 2006 10:55

To Soleil,

Your comment makes me cry...like I need any more of an excuse to cry!

I think it hurt so bad because trust was broken...and I considered this person who did this a friend.

Perhaps my expectations were too high...maybe I did expect too much, and do expect too much, of my friendships.

I don't know.

To say I'm not still upset over all this is a lie. But your support, and everybody else's, is heartwarming.

K.L.



Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 9th 2006 10:58

My Orble's Angels,

(Who were most certainly patroling Orble that night!)

Love you girls.

What else can I say (except break out into song? I'll revert to S Club 7 again...and nobody wants that!)?

You two make me laugh, and cry (happy tears), and laugh again...get admitted into Hilarity wards...

I love you both to pieces.

Your fellow Angel (who perhaps is not quite as tough as I'd previously hoped)
K.L.
xoox

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 9th 2006 11:01

Hi Dee,

Thank you for your empowering words.

I think I do know my own worth (under all this blubbering this weekend)...

It's just tough when you're dealt a blow.

I'm still sad over it, more so because of the meanness of it all...

I can take critisicm (I hope!)...but I can't take outright nastiness.

And from a person I genuinely respected and cared about. That's what I'm having trouble dealing with.

Not so much my having my worth knocked (although that certainly hurt).

Thank you, Dee, for the support.

K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 9th 2006 11:05

To Voices,

I must admit, I felt you overlooked what was said about me, and didn't condemn your friend for saying it.

Obviously it's not your place to do that...but I guess I kind of hoped you would.

I was disappointed, yes. But the whole thing was disappointing.

I'm glad you've clarifyed your feelings here. It helps, and I'm so glad you've done it.

K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 9th 2006 11:07

To Bryn,

The fact that you're drinking pink champagne says the world to me...and means the world to me!

And that you took the time to make such a lovely comment.

Thanks, Bryn. It's fully appreciated.

K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 9th 2006 11:08

P.S. The tough horror writer, drinking pink champagne???

Warms my heart. It really does! (Makes me laugh, too)

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 9th 2006 11:10

To Lilla,

Thank you so much...you do always know just what to say to inspire me, make me feel better, make me feel appreciated and loved!!

It's very sweet.

K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 9th 2006 11:12

To Stanley,

The fact that you cared enough to read and comment means everything to me.

Your words are much appreciated.

Thank you,
K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 9th 2006 11:16

George,

Whoops! Seemed to have missed you in the mass of comments...

Sorry about that! How could I forget you??

You make me laugh, George. It is always appreciated.

And, once again, you know how to help me in my writing, and help me move forward.

I can never thank you enough for all your wise, lovely words.

Thank you.

K.L.

Comment by Homer Joyce

December 9th 2006 11:49
KL.

If you stopped wasting your time being the No 1 Drama Queen on Orble, and went to a writing college, you would get your romance novel published. The foundations are there. You can write. But there is a difference between writing for publication and Vanity Publishing.

Orble is Vanity Publishing. It's where people like your mum and your best friends say to you. 'Your writing is great,' and you revel in it, but never get published in the real vicious hard-core badass world of publishing ....

The day will come when you will realise that I am trying to help you ... not knock you ...

What I have said to you is mild compared to what some publishers, agents and film people have said to me about my writing. And that was after writing college ...

Get over it.



Comment by Bulamakanka

December 9th 2006 12:03
Hi KL

Writers should stick together. It's hard enough to get published as it is with out being sniped at by others.

If I thought your work was not up to standard I would tell you to your face, honestly and up front. Including the reason why and if possible how to fix it.

BUT not in public.

George

Comment by Luke

December 9th 2006 12:51
"To Luke... etc, etc"

To be honest I haven't read the above blog entry, nor do I know what other blog entry you're referring to. I'm not even commenting on you in particular, it's more a general observation about Orble and the proliferation of Orble-related posts lately... my opinion is that they're detrimental to what I thought Orble was about. It's just an opinion, and I'm entitled to it. I don't derive any particular pleasure or displeasure from it.

It's not an attack on you and I'm a little confused as to why you would interpret it in such a way... are you really that self-absorbed? I resent the implication that I would deliberately set out to 'attack' you when I don't even know who you are or what this blog is even about.


Comment by The Voices in my Head

December 9th 2006 13:47
KL,
You are right in that it is not my place to say anything to said person for his comments or attacks. I have learned over the past couple of weeks to focus on the post and not the other comments being made.

You and I have not hung out, but I will tell you that I admire the drive you have. I do not have even one full manuscript ready to be turned in. You are knocking them out and sending them in.

Voices~

Comment by Ash

December 9th 2006 16:19
KL,
Crack open some of that pink champagne and hand me a glass s`il vous plait! I had a post today about betrayal too!! It is a sad, sad world when it comes down to others resorting to this kind of rubbish! But there are also more people out there with positive words that are encouraging and help to get you back on track.
Either that or I could give you the design of the voodoo doll im making for my betrayaliser (ha! new word there!)
Ash

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 10th 2006 04:32

To H.J.

'Not knock you.'

That's interesting. I believe your words were 'K.L. Almeroth can't write for shit....' and 'I do know she can't write for shit...'

And various other comments about my personality and who I hang out with.

I trusted you with my manuscript, and you posted these nasty comments about me on your site.

That is not constructive criticism. It's just plain meanness. You didn't even do it to me! You did it in a comment to Luke.

Why didn't you just email me with your feelings? Why do it publicly, and in such a nasty manner?

I may be a drama queen....but at least I'm not out there belittling people, attacking their writing, their personalities.

If you can't say something nice here, H.J., don't come back. I didn't write this post to hear more negative vibes.

I wrote this cause I was hurting from your nastiness.

I'm just supremely pissed now.

K.L.

Comment by Luke

December 10th 2006 04:39
What comment to me? What are you even talking about K.L.? I think you imagine me to be in some kind of conspiracy with Homer Joyce (who I know about as well as I know you.. which is not very!)

maybe you shouldn't make assumptions and presumptions before launching into a 12-paragraph diatribe how much I've hurt you... I've never made a comment to or about you before in my life. You just assumed whatever I wrote here or on HJ's blog was automatically about you (talk about vain!)

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 10th 2006 04:47

Luke,

It was in a comment to you from H.J. that these words were said about me...to deny you know anything about it is really quite weird. I'm looking at the print out of the page right now.

(Yes, I printed it out...petty? Self-absorbed? Perhaps. But at least I can remember what was really said)

You replied back, about parts of what H.J. was saying was arrogant, but then you mention 'fucking idiots.'

This is not self-absorption. I don't see anyone else here on this comment exchange that the two of you were talking about.

I'm sure you didn't mean me personally. It just looks that way.

The only reason I'm mad with you Luke, is because it appeared as if you derived pleasure from the nasty things said about me.

And that you've now come onto my post, when I was already down and hurting, and called me self-absorbed.

I don't think that's nice.

K.L.
Resident Self-Absorbed Drama Queen on Orble, and Member of the Nice Police.




Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 10th 2006 04:55

Thank you, George.

I agree.

The fact that the little comment wasn't emailed to me personally, instead of being posted in a comment exchange, was what is so upsetting over it all.

Writers should stick together. Seems like it's a bitchy world out there in the writing world.

K.L.


Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 10th 2006 04:59

To Voices,

Thank you for your words. I appreciate them.

People are telling me to get over this...and I am. But in another way, I'd like to know how people would feel if this had been done to them. If it was them being spoken of so harshly, and for everybody to see.

I don't think they'd like it. Not one bit.

Like I said, this was a post to help me feel better...and it did. Now I feel like this has sparked both the lovely people on Orble, and the Nasties.

I can't win. And it wasn't me that did anything wrong in the first place!

Except write a book. Does that make me a real writer all of a sudden? Cause I'm now getting hate mail?

I think it does. Is really rather heartwarming!

Thanks for your words, Voices.

You keep going with your writing, too.

K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 10th 2006 05:05

To Ash,

I saw your post...must say, I love the title!!!

Betrayal rocks!! (Both yours and mine! Sorry, but somebody's got to say something positive about my book.)

I will make my way over to your place, once this fight that seems to have erupted over my hurt feelings has ended.

(This is battle ground, this Orble Land)

I know, the positive words and feedback on here are wonderful...making me feel hugely better.

It's funny how the only nasty comments left on here were the ones involved in the whole thing in the first place...

Anyway, I'm going to try and stop being so vain and self-absorbed, and visit some (nice) people on Orble - including yourself!

K.L.

Comment by Luke

December 10th 2006 05:59
There are over 1000 people posting on this blog network... the 'fucking idiots' I'm talking about could be anyone. There was only actually one specific person I had in mind when I made that comment, and that was the guy who posts as 'The Old Man'... and to be honest, I'm not even sure if that's a real person.

I can't be expected to have total recall of every comment I've made on a blog on here, I've made hundreds of comments on different blogs across orble. Believe it or not, you're not the centre of the universe.

Don't you have something better to do other than get all worked up about this stuff?

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 10th 2006 06:12

Luke,

You obviously had no idea what was being said in a comment written to you.

That's fine.

But to continue to be nasty...just stop.

Being upset about something that was publicly written about me, is not me being centre of the universe.

Although, I actually do believe I'm the centre of my universe. And my daughter's....and my husband.

I don't see anything wrong in that.

I've done nothing to you guys, so please kindly piss off.

K.L.

Comment by Luke

December 10th 2006 06:18
I haven't been nasty to you at all, you're being ridiculous.

If you can't handle it maybe you shouldn't be here.

Comment by KylieW

December 10th 2006 23:24
KL my sweet,

It doesn't matter how many people tell you to 'get over it' or 'forget about what was said', the fact remains that you were hurt, and very deeply. You're entitled to wallow in that for a little while without regarding yourself as a drama queen.

But I know, that you are smart enough to know letting it affect you for too long is giving those people power over you. Undeserved power.

You are a true sweetheart whom I have never heard (or should that be seen?) say a bad word about anyone. That is a wonderful and rare quality (and one that I unfortunately don't generally possess), and one that I'm sure you will pass along to your children.

As you can see, you have many supporters here on Orble and can hold your head high.

So when you're ready, forget the nastiness and immerse yourself once again in Kit & Corky's world and get Betrayal out there for the rest of us to read. I'm getting impatient to read the whole story!

KylieW

Comment by Lilla

December 10th 2006 23:34
Hi KL,

You missed a great viritual Orble Christmas Party over at Tracy's last night... I think it looks like turning into an all weekender if you get lonely...?

I awoke this morning from under a beautiful big old tree on the front lawn at Tracy's and had a radical idea for your Betrayal... why not post a page or two for us all to critique... go on... I bet we'll think it's fab!

How about the opening two pages and then a bit later and maybe the epilogue or something...? I am so dam curious as to this controversial script that I cannot stand to wait until it is published... at the very least you may garner some constructive criticism...?

what do you say, my sweet?

Lilla...

Comment by Ash

December 11th 2006 00:22

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 11th 2006 00:30

KylieW,

Thank you, my sweet girl, for your lovely words.

All I wanted on this site was to showcase my writing, and make other writing friends, and friends full stop.

This has all just been a nightmare. A virtual nightmare.

I have been hurt, yes, but I'm getting over it. Like you said, I should not allow these people any power over me.

You are completely right, Miss W!

Thanks for your unconditional support, right from day one.

It means the world to me.

K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 11th 2006 00:36

Hi Lilla,

That party of Tracy's sounded fab...I'm very sorry I've missed it!!!

Sorry about that! Has been a mad world here the past couple of days....lawns to mow....house to clean....rellies coming soon....fathers to pick up from their stranded boats....hate mail to respond to.

You know. The usual.

Actually, you will find a number of posts on Betrayal already....early on I did Betrayal Prologue, Betrayal Short Pitch, and Betrayal Somewhere in the Middle...

Have a look, and tell me what you think.

I'm toying with posting Betrayal: Near the End tonight.

Like a true author, or celebrity (hmm, I fancy myself as a bit of a celebrity...although, I'll keep my undies on, thank you very much), I'm thinking I may as well take advantage of all this, bad publicity or not!

Thanks for your kind words, as usual, Lilla.

Much love,
K.L.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 11th 2006 00:38

Hi again Ash!

Your lovely face is always welcome here, my dear. Good to see you again.

Yes, I just mentioned to Lilla about my controversial manuscript being in my older posts...

I am thinking of sitting down tonight and posting another bit of Betrayal.

Why not? It can't get any worse (I should NOT have said that).

K.L.

Comment by Always Eighteen

December 11th 2006 14:04
It's Christmas! Let's be merry and red faced like Santa... or shit faced, like me!


K.L, you are one hot momma. I wish I had half the passion for writing as you do! My friends and I support you as much as you support the drinking of pink champagne.

Comment by K.L. Almeroth

December 12th 2006 02:37

To Always,

Your sweet, flirtatious words are welcome here any time, Always!

Thanks for that...it's lovely to know you support me, and your friends.

(I'm blushing.)

I'll be sure to toast you with some pink champagne!

Cheers Always!

K.L.

Comment by KarenC

January 6th 2007 17:13
KL you rock. Ignore everyone who tells you otherwise.